Tier: High 4-C. Name: Goten Origin: Dragon Ball. Goten/Trunks were, as much as I hate to say it, at least on par with Final Form Freeza each, and if not then very close to. In the ova with vegeta brother, they were fighting someone around frieza level, and is cannon since the battle of gods mentioned vegeta brother.So I said around future trunks lv or little bit above, before the hyperbolic time chamber training. Also it was clear to everyone that Freeza transformed after King Cold and his crew recovered Freeza's body. Not without fusion. Fusion power levels...one of the worst things when discussing DBZ lol... And she was laughing at Vegeta's Big Bang attack... like a said it may have been filler but i was wrong it was only 150 times and i forgot goku could do that later in the 100x training. Technically, future Trunks is stronger because for all we know, he still trained after defeating cell and 17 and 18. They are essentially featless so we have no choice plus Yo son goku and friends return is basically canon. In the manga she stomped them while not even trying which in turn they had no choice but to go SSJ. #18 and others were Holding Back during the tournament to keep from maiming the other contestants. Tier: At least High 4-C, 4-B as a Super Saiyan | 4-B | 4-B. She stomped vegeta so she wouldn't be scared of the kids turning ssj. Their fusion never actually fought buu until after ROSAT, where they were also a SSj 3 fusion. But their fusion before the ROSAT was pretty quantifiable. @deathhero61: So obvious denial correct? Furiza probably has the same level here as in the Namek saga. During the time he was far above everyone. They needed the year long ROSAT training to surpass the androids (and Cell too lol)? (because the blast they shot was surprisingly strong. Funny thing is that was major downplay on eighteen. Birus can, especially as his abilities are literally of a higher level than Goku's as he's a God and it was expressed clearly that others cannot sense the abilities of a God. @reaverlation: I must not remember that fight very well then. Also Goku would lose vs 18, , Also, Trunks held back vs Goku, I would say SSj trunks is atleast twice as strong as goku was when goku first entered namek mainly for what probably was filler about trunks in vegetas gravity room that was at 200 times earths gravity where goku was struggling under the 100x earth gravity when he was training to get their and goten is somewhere close to that level based on the world tournament. Going from frieza's men and frieza himself, all the way to the androids and cell's forms and the z fighters and dabura and what not. They were later in the series, this is a shonen, power increases down series. A bunch of WIS fights? @pope052 , thoughts? He was able to learn MSSJ before he could fly. @dratini1331: Yeah in base level.When they turned SSJ and fired a simple Ki blast at her, she was crapping her pants at the power they released.I'd say above 18.If this was true about being around 18 power level, then their fusions shouldn't be as strong as to the point of surpassing SSJ2's and rivaling SSJ3's. Also what does Goku blasting nukes have to do with it? Gotenks is the Metamoran fusion of Goten and Trunks, formed to defeat Majin Buu. I think the U7 Saiyans are a step above the U6 and personally think Goten and Trunks stomp them but wondering what everyone else thinks. Now we all know that it would be HIGHLY impractical for two kids the age of eight and seven respectively, to have a power level higher than pre-RoSaT Goku, Gohan, Vegeta and Trunks. There's no evidence Tarble ever met Freeza at all. So my best estimates for these two are around Freeza's base level and Freeza's 1st form power. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Edit. Vegeta also states that in the excitement of the fight that Trunks was forgetting his basic training. If its more than that its possible he might be a rogue God of Destruction from another universe. They seem to be around Piccolo's or Trunks level. Super Saiyan 3= Base x400. Elder Kai draws out your entire potential and even pushes it beyond, meaning that they'd be a lot stronger than Ultimate Gohan as I believe they have more potential than him. You have to remember, Goten/Trunks were SSJ1 amazingly early. If you noticed when he showed up Whis and Beerus were surprised. Goten & Trunks vs Cell Jr's Goten & Trunks (Base + Training) = 530,000,000 = Million Goten & Trunks (Mastered Super Saiyan) = 42,400,000,000 = Billion Cell J.R's (Rusty) = 4,240,000,000 = Billion They did a fusion dance in the manga Kale & Caulifla Kale (Mastered Super Saiyan Berserker) = 36,000,000,000,000,000,000 = Quintillion Kefla VS Gohan And Tarble, Abo and Cabo can't sense ki. The Potara fusion always seemed superior to the metamorphian (or whatever its called) though. That is not to say he never has. Comments. 150,000,000. Dragon Ball Z, Super, and GT Power Levels. The ONLY confirmation of how strong they are, was from Goku in movie 14 when he … both Goten and trunks have power level in the tens of millions they stomp terribly. And she even said that she underestimated them which suggest she was holding back. Trunks is equal to Goku when he fought against Frieza on planet Namek, while fighting against Frieza's soldiers Trunks's power level only reads 5 on their scouters. Their SSJ fusion was around SSJ3 Goku and Fat Buu level from Goku's and Piccolo's words. But yeah i'd say they are around frieza's level but not final form. Trunks and Goten are nowhere near Mirai Trunks nor Piccolo. He only saw Frieza at his base. This is the truth. Fathers and sons face off against their rivals, Gohan & Goku vs Vegeta & Trunks POWER LEVELS. Goku traveled half of namek's distance in a few seconds in base form. after the buu saga, powers are based on Theory and multipliers DRAGON BALL CLÁSSICO Contents. Base trunks was power level 5 when Frieza read him so it's hard to say what Goku was at when Beerus said that. Forms Super Saiyan. These 2, while one was on top of another, gave Android 16 a fight in base form.When they turned Super Saiyan,18 started worrying about how Mighty Mask power level increased so much.When Trunks fired a simple Ki blast,18 crapped her pants at the blast coming at her.A simple Ki blast and these 2 kids got stronger in the ROSAT. Don't be fooled by lightning. However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's, since his was slightly higher from being one year older. Trunks Special Android 17: 60,000,000 Android 18: 60,000,000 SS Gohan: 70,000,000 SS Trunks: 45,000,000: Here, the Android's power levels are based on the guesses from the Android saga. I need a pure showcase proving at least that. Heck i doubt they can even destroy the moon. Raditz vs. Goku and Piccolo. The fusion only lasts for 30 minutes and using Super Saiyan 3 reduces this time to 5 minutes. Kaioken= Base x1.5- 20. Also not a battle. they were hard pressed when fighting android 18. Just maybe, ssj vegeta when he first appeared in the android saga but cell saga goku is really and i mean really pushing it. He has been doing that since the Piccolo junior arc. And Toriyama also revealed that 1 Kili is 1.000.000 in power level and thus SSj FP Goku is 3.000.000.000 and Yakon is 800.000.000. The fact that 18 according to you "shit her pants" when they threw a ki blast is PIS since weaker versions of herself and her brother were casually nuking cities when they weren't trying. The two young Saiyans then fused and . Kamehameha's power level 924 Piccolo Special Beam Cannon's power level 1,330 Gohan Hidden Potential released 1,307 Gohan 1 Piccolo Special Beam Cannon's power level 1,440 Vegeta Saga (trainings) Master Roshi Base 139 Krillin 206 Turtle 0.001 Tien Shinhan 250 Yamcha 177 Piccolo With Weighted Clothing 329 Mr. Popo 1,030 King Kai 3,500 Trunks is equal to Goku when he fought against Frieza on planet Namek, while fighting against Frieza's soldiers Trunks's power level only reads 5 on their scouters. For example, Tien's power level during the Trunks Saga will be around 70,000 and will … Future Trunks. when i read it i see more surprise then anything about how powerful they are for their age and remember she hasnt really seen a supersayian fight for 7 years. Super Saiyan Trunks 150,000,000 Even with Frieza's cybernetic enhancements he is still no match for a Super Saiyan that is around the same power level as Goku's when they fought on Namek. Their fusion at base proceeded to murder stomp buu. So trunks being stronger than goku during the android saga is stupid to be honest. They created illusionary doppelgangers to confuse the boys. Discussion had at work wondering what everyone thinks. What power? Use code memes for an Extra 10% discount ($99+)! If you need an example though, watch the part of "Yo! Actually yeah i do wanna hear his thoughts as well. And once they remembered how to detect their opponents, they quite easily beat down on Abo and Cabo, forcing them to merge. Why does them = Namek Goku mean Goku cant launch nukes? Their physical strength in comparison is garbage from what i seen, their speed is supposed to be way faster but all things considered they seem to be the slowest. Sure. 1.No. Legendary Of Saiyan Resident Neo 11 total posts: 3056 since: Jan 2014. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Others 5 Discussions Trunks (トランクス) is a protagonist in the Dragon Ball manga and the anime series Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT He is the Human and Saiyan hybrid son of Bulma and Vegeta, and later the older brother of Bulla. How that can be interpreted is anyone's guess. He has also helped in giving Goku his energy, along with the help of Trunks and Gohan during the Baby Saga. Nappa and Vegeta both had it during the Saiyan saga. Trunks is stronger because of his age, he has one full year of training over Goten, and we've all seen what a Saiyain can accomplish in one year. Bonus: Hory shit, Gotenks 12/10. I seriously doubt BOS DBS Goku couldn't take Frieza. And we know that they are both much weaker than Cell-era SSJ2 Gohan. Wow, humans > Trunks, in terms of power levels? We also know that Birus says that he doesn't feel Goku could've beaten Freeza when seeing him in base form, which most likely means he was examining Goku's full base potential, which at the time of the Buu Saga was 60mil, half of Freeza's maximum. Since Gohan can almost take on both of them, he probably has around 70,000,000. And these questions are out of all the combatants in the DBZ universe. The fact that she is supposed to be superior to frieza anyway negates this showcase entirely. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Trunks(トランクス) is a protagonist in theDragon Ballmanga, and the anime seriesDragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball Super. Besides we do not know how goku would have fared against 18. @deathhero61: The kids aren't that weak dude.They're just that powerful to do that to 18. Goten having trouble with chichi? (they showed nothing that suggested major improvement in the ROSAT) And plus the thing everyone is forgetting is that android 18 in the manga actually stomped the boys in a few pages and forced them to go SSJ. I'm saying that Goten and Trunks turning SSJ is a Ki amplificationThe ki amplification argument in general is pretty baseless and if the best support you have is ToP Anime power-scaling inconsistencies (the ToP Anime is joked on for how poor Toei did its power-scaling), there's definitely a problem. Goten was able to go MSSJ at the age of 7 without having previous knowledge of the form. @deathhero61: I'd confidentiality say the kids are above Piccolo and possibly Future Trunks.They fought 18 evenly in base form while pretending to be mighty mask.When they turned Super Saiyan,18 crapped her pants at a simple Ki blast they fired at her.Namek Goku isn't in the Kid's league in power. re: East Kaioshin vs SSJ Goten and Trunks He maybe able to take one of them thanks to his magic but even one on one he's sorely outclassed power level … The lightning doesn't make you SSJ2. However, based on that they'd get no further than ranking them either equal to or slightly below Cell Saga Super Vegeta (as when #18 witnessed his power, she was much more intimidated and surprised than she was when she witnessed Goten & Trunks turn into Super Saiyans). fusion could easily be well beyond that, and then we add gotenk's SSj to factor in as well. Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo Farmer: 5 Raditz(Suppressed): 1,200 Piccolo(Weights): 322 Goku(Weights): 334 Gohan: 1 Chichi: 90 Piccolo: 322 Krillin: 206 Bulma: Vegeta had a couple of massive power boosts during the Cell saga. Use code memes for an Extra 10% discount ($99+)!Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DBZMackyFollow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dbzmacky/Join the POWER LEVEL COMMUNITY's official Discord Server!https://discordapp.com/invite/ksP3QtGLet us know if you agree or disagree with the video, and discuss Power Scaling with us, for all Comics and Anime.Dragon Ball Super Power Levels and Dragon Ball Heroes Power Levels are all fan made and original, based on official power levels from the databooks, manga, anime and the daizenshuu guidebooks. Skinny Edit. In the DBZ special movie involving the appearance of Vegeta's younger brother, Tarble, it had been mentioned that Abo and Cabo, two former special squad members on the same ranking as the Ginyu Force, had become as tough as Freeza. Saiyan. Who are they stronger than without fusion? Even if they were above namek goku SOMEHOW, based on that one showcase against 18 they would still be below piccolo and future trunks. To which Goku responded with not thinking them as much of a challenge and quickly got bored of the idea of fighting them himself. I especially say this because goku was casually outperforming trunks who oneshotted an amped frieza, with a FINGER. @deathhero61: Using the wrong kind of debating. Even at 18's PL, they could very well stomp buu depending on how well fusion works. Goten and Trunks must wait a full hour before fusing again. He was also already away Goku could go Super Saiyan and was more just poking fun at him. Fusion of Goten and Trunks through Fusion Dance. There are other factors that show a … Son Goku and his Friends Return" when Tarble first meets Goku. He said that namek goku doesn't compare to goten and trunks in power. Dragon Ball GT Edit. what may i ask? They weren't struggling beforehand and I already made mention of this. Hard to say, but before I give my two cents on where i'd agree to rank them I must concur with @reaverlation, feats aren't to be considered in terms of judging the power and ranking of a Dragon Ball character to a certain point. YOU JUST SAID NAMEK GOKU DOESN'T COMPARE IN POWER. Classic editor History Talk (0) Share. SO I USED THE MARVEL AND DC RULES. Edit. 3,000,000. Frieza had it at 100% buff power, and SSJ Goku had it on Namek. They're likely close to her level. Powers and Stats. They are based on the facts that SSj3 is SSj2 x4 and SSj2 is SSj1 x2. Whether they meant Freeza's base (520k) or his final form (120mil) is ultimately never explained, or even if it was meant for when the two combined. Gohan was so much stronger than cell when he owned him. Anyway, considering frieza blew up planet vegeta in his first form and that is just a power level of 500 000 it is safe to assume that goten and trunks could blow up planets if they wanted to. Trunks and Goten transformed themselves as Super Saiyans. Get Anime Apparel here: http://bit.ly/AnimeCartoonApparelUse code meme for an Extra 5% discount ($49+)! There is one thing wrong with those power level, when goten and trunks … (its likely that king cold knows of said transformation. Base Edit. Also does this mean Goku Black is at least SSG power level? Name: Gotenks Origin: Dragon Ball. Goten and Trunks had the advantage over Gohan of being born as tailless hybrids, which gave them an incredible growth of power even above tailed hybrids, as well as making the ability to transform to Ssj for the first time very easy. Trunks is stronger because of his age, he has one full year of training over Goten, and we've all seen what a Saiyain can accomplish in one year. Actually they were struggling to beat ado and cabo. It's more likely that as SSJ they are around Freeza's max level or above apiece. The other two are new Super Saiyans but really took to the new power. The legitimately only reason why he failed to beat 19 was because of his heart disease. Power Levels of dragon ball z official (up to DBS). Anyone honestly thinking Base Goten (if he went back to the Trunks saga) could defeat Future Super Saiyan Trunks, must be out of their mind. Super Saiyan Trunks: 100,000,000 (had to power down to match Goten for fusion) Super Saiyan Goten: 100,000,000 Fat Gotenks: 200,000,000 (their power didn’t really increase much but didn’t go down as Gotenks felt that being Fat was a way to regulate their power. Goten is Gohan's younger brother and Trunks' best friend. Due to the ROSAT however, that may bring them close to Cell Saga Super Saiyan Goku's standard, but likely not equal to (and for the record, Super Saiyan Gohan wasn't stronger than Super Saiyan Goku at any point in the manga, as I saw somebody say that he was stronger here). She is after the prize money in the first place. Cell Absorptions= … @reikai: It had to be base level Frieze because Tarble wasn't around when Frieza transformed. 1 Emperor Pilaf Saga; 2 Tournament Saga; 3 Red Ribbon Saga; 4 General Blue Saga; 5 Commander Red Saga; 6 Fortuneteller Baba Saga; 7 Tenshinhan Saga; 8 Piccolo Daimao Saga. 8.1.1 Dragon Ball Z Kai; 8.2 Saiyan Saga; 9 Raditz … There're pretty strong. He also wears a similar orange gi to Goku's, minus the kame symbol along with a dark blue long-sleeved undershirt and black training shoes with dark blue shin guards in the Majin Buu Arc. Oozaru= Base x10 Base. Heck after the 3 year training Goku was as sure as hell stronger than trunks, so was vegeta. However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's since his was slightly higher from being one year older. Goten vs. Trunks. Which, again, could mean anything. And was allot more than she thought and wanted to end the fight quickly due to how the fight might do to the stadium, plus krillin told her to holdback during tournament.) #18 was not 'crapping her pants'. Goten pressuring GOHAN of all people in a sparring session? I do not add in amplified blasts as those feats are too inconsistent to mark. Which may be to say that Goten and Trunks (as individuals) working together could take out Freeza. You're using Marvel/DC rules and not how DBZ is suppose to be debated. King piccolo is pushing it, they are way above him. Goten is known for looking almost identical to his father as a child, to the point when Goku firs… Base Edit. Raditz: 1,500 Farmer with Shotgun: 5. 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